Curse

Patrick Smit · Aug 03, 2007, 09:01 PM // 21:01

I agree with pork that different rules would apply to RA and TA, but m,y suggested rules are different. RA 1 point per win, no consecutive bonusses. TA, 1 point per win+1 consecutive bonus per additional win, cap it somewhere at 5-9. RA becomes prone to grievers now, as runners, earth tanks and other stuff will just be rewarded for staying alive for ever. Put a timer on battles.

Winterclaw · Aug 03, 2007, 10:29 PM // 22:29

As someone who's never won more than 8 in a row, I think a change like this is due.

lacasner · Aug 03, 2007, 10:34 PM // 22:34

It sounds like you assume ur entitled to a title. That is exactly why they should take the points out of RA.

Shaz · Aug 03, 2007, 11:49 PM // 23:49

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Originally Posted by Winterclaw

As someone who's never won more than 8 in a row, I think a change like this is due.

This is exactly why they shouldn't do that. The Gladiator title wasn't too impressive to others to begin with, doing this would just kill it. What's next? How about a Champion point for every win in GvG no matter what's the rating of both teams are? Oh no, I shouldn't have said that.

KANE OG · Aug 04, 2007, 12:10 AM // 00:10

How about we all wonder why they would change the wording if they didn't plan on executing just such an idea. When are they going to just come out and tell us what they PLAN on doing, see the reactions, and adjust accordingly. Sounds simple enough.

KANE

kvndoom · Aug 04, 2007, 12:12 AM // 00:12

RA deserves nothing. At most, it should provide half normal faction. But there never, ever should have been a title. Sure there were always leavers, but nothing like it is now. Punish the leavers, period. No other reward is necessary for RA. I'd give up any hope of title advancement just to actually enjoy RA again. It has always been stupid, but once upon a time it was fun.

Losing on #10 is a fact of life, just like any other disappointment. It has happened to all of us. And equally, I've been cussed out pretty badly for beating a team on their 10th match. But hey, that's how it goes. There never was a title for being good enough to win nine. Shoot, most of the time I have to win 11 or more just to make sure everyone on my team gets a point... because of leavers.

Gawd, Anet, promote the good PVP for once. Get yer head out of the rectum and give TA some love. I miss TA so much, but it's just not worth the time anymore.

fenix · Aug 04, 2007, 12:16 AM // 00:16

I think I deserve to get more Gladiator points. They should make it 1 per win in RA and 2 per win in TA. I never get to win all 10, so I should be able to get the title.

That's all I'm hearing when I read this thread. Which is bad. Glad title (I personally think is a joke, but grats to the few with rank 8-9, you have far more patience for tards than I do) shouldn't be that ridiculously easy to get. If you can't win, you're either bad, or you're in a bad team. Solution? Play TA with friends, or sync into RA. Or stop complaining about points, that could work too.

Bicuspid · Aug 04, 2007, 12:40 AM // 00:40

If they just multiply all the requirements by 10, making rank 9 = 21,600, I expect all the people with high glad ranks right now to just quit in frustration.

Gladiator right now takes more time than Hero. If you're in TA you can pump out the points relatively fast, maybe 1 every 30 minutes. If you're in RA maybe 1 every hour. This is if you're good and you have a good team.

But if I am getting 1-2 points a win, I will max this title in a month even if its 20,000 points to max rank. I have only 256 points (2,560 wins for those streaks) but I am sure I have won 100,000+ games because the % of games you win that turn out to not count for anything is huge.

Then what? What was for years possibly the hardest title to max will be one of the easiest to obtain and most open to bot/afk abuse. And then what? There will be about 3 months where a lot of people are in RA (TA will be dead) and then since gladiator is an account-wide title, after all the people max it RA will be empty forever.

This is a horrible idea. If they want to change it to 1 point for ever 5 win streak so the complainers who cant manage 10 with their horrible builds but STILL NEVER LEARN will cry less, then fine. Thats a lateral move though.

PS: add emotes...if I'm gonna have to farm up 20,000+ anything I want some emotes. I've already unlocked everything there is to unlock, I'm just doing this for fun right now but I cant help but feel arenas is the least rewarding form of PvP right now. No emotes, no faction that can be turned into money....nothing except a title that may mean nothing soon.

Wolala Wagaga · Aug 04, 2007, 01:01 AM // 01:01

I can easily see farm bots abusing this new system... i think if we can have like 1 gladiator point every TWO wins, and 5 bonus point after 10 wins, that will give a total of 10 Gladiator points in 10 wins, which half only obtained thru 10 wins. Which i think will discourage farm bots ( not enough incentive) and enough margin to seperate the good from the bad.

I guess the current points need to mulitplied by at least 20-25 to compensate for the time and effort the current title holders had put in.

Causal players can earn some points, discourage bots and 'elite players' status retain the reward they hav put into earning the title.

What do everyone think about the above?

Bazompora · Aug 04, 2007, 02:49 AM // 02:49

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The Disgraced Gladiator Rank

which was disgraced right from the start, by reroll-leavers farming the bulk of the points.

This change gives fair players a decent chance to score some points too.

Bicuspid · Aug 04, 2007, 03:02 AM // 03:02

please the reroll problem is not as bad as most people make it out to be...on my non monk maybe 1 out of 5 games someone leaves...on my monk no one ever leaves unless its another monk (and I am happy if a monk leaves so we wont waste each others time)

Most likely the people who complain about leavers are the ones whose team leaves when they see them planting spike trap, barbed traped, dust trap, etc etc at their spawn, or running some other retarded build (E/D stone dagger spammers I'm looking at you). Trust me, you guys arent missing out on any glad points.

Is it polite to just leave? No. But dont think that you're missing out on points because your no-heals team lost one guy. Out of the 250+ glad points I've had ONE (1) which did not involve healers and that was with 4 spikers who could individually kill a monk and were good about rez-ing.

Theus · Aug 04, 2007, 10:28 AM // 10:28

....Great!You have a title that proclaims that you're king of the Retards.

Unless the Gladiator title is changed to only counting TA wins,thats what I will always view it as.

Thinking about it..A Gladiator title reset and a change to only count TA points would be pretty cool.

Bazompora · Aug 05, 2007, 03:18 AM // 03:18

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Originally Posted by Bicuspid

please the reroll problem is not as bad as most people make it out to be...on my non monk maybe 1 out of 5 games someone leaves...on my monk no one ever leaves unless its another monk (and I am happy if a monk leaves so we wont waste each others time)

If you play as a monk, yeah. But if you enter with another profession, it's more like 4/5 games come with leavers.